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		<title>By: TheFalcon</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jabronsky, as always, thanks for the comment.  I ask your forgiveness in advance for the rather long winded response.  For starters, let&#039;s call the &quot;debt&quot; number you are referring to a combination of current debt owed plus future legal commitments to the American people in the form of social security, medicare and the like.  The short answer to your question is no I don&#039;t know of or have a debt to income or similar ratio which would help indicate the onset of hyperinflation, nor would anyone else.  We could look at certain ratios to help make the case that the path we are on is unsustainable but not necessarily to indicate the onset of hyperinflation.  The reason is that there are too many variables involved to simply focus on the ratio of two figures.  We can however look at what causes hyperinflation and related trends to get an idea of where we are on the road.  At the risk of oversimplifying and thereby distorting the picture, the primary driver that will lead to hyperinflation is a dramatic increase in the money supply within the borders of the US along with a related fall in the value of the dollar.  With a loss of confidence and/or diminished need for the dollar, these dollars are sold off and thus drive the dollar exchange rate down and these dollars find themselves back in the US.  Now with all of these dollars from around the world back in the US and with the exchange rate reduced, imports become very expensive and our exports very cheap.  Thus all of these new dollars start chasing domestic goods and foreign demand for cheaper US goods increases.  This puts hyper-inflationary pressure under domestic prices.  Combine with this the dramatic fall in natural resource prices last year which lead to shuttering of unprofitable production at such low prices and you have a reduction in supply.  Thus you have a dramatic increase in money circulating combined with increased demand from abroad and the reduced availability of stuff which again puts dramatic pressure under prices.  This is a simplified picture of dynamics that could bring on hyper-inflation.  As you can see, debt is not mentioned in this simple scenario but it does lurk in the background.  The fractional reserve banking system is what brought much of this money into existence in the first place.  Quantitative easing (creating money out of thin air to buy treasury debt because no one else shows up at auction to lend us money) also increases the money supply.  The point here is that it is a more complex picture than can be defined by looking at ratios alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jabronsky, as always, thanks for the comment.  I ask your forgiveness in advance for the rather long winded response.  For starters, let&#8217;s call the &#8220;debt&#8221; number you are referring to a combination of current debt owed plus future legal commitments to the American people in the form of social security, medicare and the like.  The short answer to your question is no I don&#8217;t know of or have a debt to income or similar ratio which would help indicate the onset of hyperinflation, nor would anyone else.  We could look at certain ratios to help make the case that the path we are on is unsustainable but not necessarily to indicate the onset of hyperinflation.  The reason is that there are too many variables involved to simply focus on the ratio of two figures.  We can however look at what causes hyperinflation and related trends to get an idea of where we are on the road.  At the risk of oversimplifying and thereby distorting the picture, the primary driver that will lead to hyperinflation is a dramatic increase in the money supply within the borders of the US along with a related fall in the value of the dollar.  With a loss of confidence and/or diminished need for the dollar, these dollars are sold off and thus drive the dollar exchange rate down and these dollars find themselves back in the US.  Now with all of these dollars from around the world back in the US and with the exchange rate reduced, imports become very expensive and our exports very cheap.  Thus all of these new dollars start chasing domestic goods and foreign demand for cheaper US goods increases.  This puts hyper-inflationary pressure under domestic prices.  Combine with this the dramatic fall in natural resource prices last year which lead to shuttering of unprofitable production at such low prices and you have a reduction in supply.  Thus you have a dramatic increase in money circulating combined with increased demand from abroad and the reduced availability of stuff which again puts dramatic pressure under prices.  This is a simplified picture of dynamics that could bring on hyper-inflation.  As you can see, debt is not mentioned in this simple scenario but it does lurk in the background.  The fractional reserve banking system is what brought much of this money into existence in the first place.  Quantitative easing (creating money out of thin air to buy treasury debt because no one else shows up at auction to lend us money) also increases the money supply.  The point here is that it is a more complex picture than can be defined by looking at ratios alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Christophe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good essay once again.  I await the essay on nation-state default and money supply inflation with much anticipation.  Until then, my comments are these.   

I would say that the world has reached its limit of lending to us at essentially a zero rate of return.  We both know that the world (pronounced &quot;China&quot;) will soon demand a return commensurate with the true risk.  Moreover, I think we can safely say that China (err...I mean the world) no longer buys or holds U.S. debt because it is the best investment vis-a-vis the other investment options with similar risk profiles.  Instead, &quot;they&quot; buy or hold it because China remains still too invested in our survival to allow us to collapse.  We remain the world&#039;s primary importer.  We also remain the primary educator of the world&#039;s people.  Both of these functions are vitally important to China and other emerging markets.   But as China, India and the like become better able to serve both of these functions themselves or for one another, they will have no use for the U.S., its people, its currency or its debt.   Having staved off the financial abyss (at least for this decade), the U.S. has simply postponed the inevitable.  The question is for how long.  The day of reckoning will come.   The first question is when.  The second question is what role will the U.S. play in that new world order.     

As for savings, it is illogical to expect (I know you really don&#039;t) the government to encourage personal savings when its entire economic structure is based on people spending everything they have.  What is the number? Three-quarters of U.S. GDP is based on consumer spending.   Take the current euphoria spreading across America regarding alleged life signs in the housing market as example.   Existing home sales volume and prices are up year over year and month to month (or something like that).  At the same time, unemployment continues to creep up (expected well into 2010) and defaults on &quot;prime&quot; mortgages are skyrocketing.   Yet the government is touting the bottom of the housing decline and encouraging Americas to buy (and still giving them starter money to do so).  This is in addition to giving them money to buy cars.  I already noted to you how indiotic I thought this program was - why also do &quot;Cash for Christmas&quot; while we are printing and throwing money to the wind.  Another interesting stat is the current level of lay-away financed purchases and the items being financed.   These days, lay-away is the &quot;credit card&quot; of last resort for a population of people who have tapped out all their other means of acquiring new stuff.  

Now I am rambling.   My point is this.   In the movie Scareface, Michelle Pfiefer&#039;s character at one point says, &quot;Nothing exceeds like excess!&quot;  This sums up the U.S. economic philosophy for sometime.  The problem is excess always has consequences that we never want to have to experience.   Or, better stated, that certain powers are invested in never having to experience themselves.  So, when the collector calls to collect on the latest binge, we create a new ponzie scheme to pay him off.  We are in a cycle of trading one problem for another instead of dealing with the systemic problems in our economic philosophy and practice.  We can only play this game for so long.    

Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good essay once again.  I await the essay on nation-state default and money supply inflation with much anticipation.  Until then, my comments are these.   </p>
<p>I would say that the world has reached its limit of lending to us at essentially a zero rate of return.  We both know that the world (pronounced &#8220;China&#8221;) will soon demand a return commensurate with the true risk.  Moreover, I think we can safely say that China (err&#8230;I mean the world) no longer buys or holds U.S. debt because it is the best investment vis-a-vis the other investment options with similar risk profiles.  Instead, &#8220;they&#8221; buy or hold it because China remains still too invested in our survival to allow us to collapse.  We remain the world&#8217;s primary importer.  We also remain the primary educator of the world&#8217;s people.  Both of these functions are vitally important to China and other emerging markets.   But as China, India and the like become better able to serve both of these functions themselves or for one another, they will have no use for the U.S., its people, its currency or its debt.   Having staved off the financial abyss (at least for this decade), the U.S. has simply postponed the inevitable.  The question is for how long.  The day of reckoning will come.   The first question is when.  The second question is what role will the U.S. play in that new world order.     </p>
<p>As for savings, it is illogical to expect (I know you really don&#8217;t) the government to encourage personal savings when its entire economic structure is based on people spending everything they have.  What is the number? Three-quarters of U.S. GDP is based on consumer spending.   Take the current euphoria spreading across America regarding alleged life signs in the housing market as example.   Existing home sales volume and prices are up year over year and month to month (or something like that).  At the same time, unemployment continues to creep up (expected well into 2010) and defaults on &#8220;prime&#8221; mortgages are skyrocketing.   Yet the government is touting the bottom of the housing decline and encouraging Americas to buy (and still giving them starter money to do so).  This is in addition to giving them money to buy cars.  I already noted to you how indiotic I thought this program was &#8211; why also do &#8220;Cash for Christmas&#8221; while we are printing and throwing money to the wind.  Another interesting stat is the current level of lay-away financed purchases and the items being financed.   These days, lay-away is the &#8220;credit card&#8221; of last resort for a population of people who have tapped out all their other means of acquiring new stuff.  </p>
<p>Now I am rambling.   My point is this.   In the movie Scareface, Michelle Pfiefer&#8217;s character at one point says, &#8220;Nothing exceeds like excess!&#8221;  This sums up the U.S. economic philosophy for sometime.  The problem is excess always has consequences that we never want to have to experience.   Or, better stated, that certain powers are invested in never having to experience themselves.  So, when the collector calls to collect on the latest binge, we create a new ponzie scheme to pay him off.  We are in a cycle of trading one problem for another instead of dealing with the systemic problems in our economic philosophy and practice.  We can only play this game for so long.    </p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Jabronsky</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 05:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say that US government debt is about 60 times its income.  Do you have any data on when various ratios such as this lead to hyperinflation (i.e. debt vs. GDP)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say that US government debt is about 60 times its income.  Do you have any data on when various ratios such as this lead to hyperinflation (i.e. debt vs. GDP)?</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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